Curious on your thoughts re the pros/cons and why you'd pick this over the Trek Stache (which also comes in alu and carbon flavors)?I had a great experience with the Stache (aluminum) and obviously it wins on 29+ tire clearance but I’d be building both options the same - 120mm Manitou Mattoc Pro, 29x3” SE4 on i40 front, 29x2.6” SE5 on i40 rear, stays ~ full long - and absent the need for 29x3”+ rear clearance the Chameleon is my winner.It’s lighter, better SS dropouts in use, geo is more over-forking friendly, slacker to begin with, and the planes of stiffness/compliance are more tuned (Stache tuned around elevated stays).Any of those things is a tiny improvement but it adds up to a win for Chameleon.Not at all, a hardtail has to be REALLY compelling to overcome a lack of sliders and be interesting to me.For example I’m working on a test of the Rocky Mountain Growler 40 and it’s so capable (bike + upgrades) for ~ the price of a Carbon Chameleon frame that it can only be called awesome (for the money) and even then I’m wondering if some kind of Horizontal dropout/bolt-on hub would add any cost.2017 aluminum owner, riding 30x18 with 120mm fork. I could likely adapt to a bit of front wheel flop with the longer stems, but if I was planning to run one I'd get a 51mm offset fork.That would put my 5'9" on a large frame if I was buying the Chameleon for my local trails, mated to a 140mm or even 150mm fork and run with the wheelbase as long as possible. We'll do everything we can to get you back to riding as fast as possible.If you have any other questions or would like to follow up on a warranty claim, contact our The sole remedy available under the foregoing express warranty and all implied warranties is the repair or replacement of defective parts with those of equal or greater value, as determined by Santa Cruz Bicycles in its sole discretion. DSTire clearance is also impressive for a carbon bike, especially with the option to run the stays at 415mm with a true 2.3" knobby. One look at the geometry will tell you this bike isn't for anyone chasing trends. Photo: DSWhether size medium or large, I think the pedaling position is brilliant for delivering power. It would only be an issue if there was slag or warping from welding in which case the post-production reaming is claimed to not be deep enough.Froze the cups overnight and they went in perfectly straight on go #1. Just no real forum to tackle them.
The aftermarket Single Speed dropouts use an IS160 mountThis bike uses integrated headset cups. Do you have any thoughts on ride quality compared to the honzo?Honzo Ti is such a nice SS option. I'd rather put that money into brakes and a fork. For example, wheelbase can be epic long as I’m always standing on steel switchback climbs anyways and a bike is much shorter when leaned over. Do you happen to know which frame size your buddy rides, and how long the fork's steerer tube is? The Reserve level spec could comprise an article of its own.And yet, I look at the entire field and if I was in the market for a carbon hardtail frame this is the only one I'd consider. If any portion of the foregoing warranty (or the exclusions or limitations thereto) is deemed invalid or unenforceable pursuant to applicable law, it shall be deemed modified so as to be valid and enforceable to the maximum extent consistent with such law. The warranty for damage arising from accidents, crashes and other impacts is limited to offered replacement at a reduced charge as set forth above. I love it but when thunking down tech trails I could go longer and slacker.I picked up some xtr m780’s cheap - looks like a shop grom took the proprietary rings off in a rush and when they went to replace discovered cost or availability wasn’t kind.I totally agree on geo.
(5'11 but long legs short arms). Twenty-niner or 27-plus, geared or single-speed, this adaptable hardtail utilizes a suite of simple, swappable dropouts to convert it from aggro trail charger to single-speed racer to husky bikepacking mule, or anything in between.Depending on setup and skill level, the Chameleon is capable on a wide range of terrain—aggressive trail riding to jump lines to all-around use. The warranty will be in effect for the lifetime of the rim and is available only to the original owner.Santa Cruz Bicycles pivot bearings are warranted for life to the original owner of the bike. **'Industry Standard' in this case being just putting a few holes in the frame for housing to travel through.
I wasn’t able to check clearance on an Oval 34t here (would have needed a SRAM one or a full-crate crankset/BB swap) but my gut is that it will just clear. Certainly a challenge in my mind that led me to a custom rigid-specific (non-suspension corrected frame and fork combo).I’ve always liked the gear reviews on NSMB but I do believe that they have gone to a new level. I’m glad to see so much thought put into the dropouts- esp love the 142 SS option. I really wanted to like the Chameleon but just didn't get on with the low stack height (to me at least) on the large. I rode the bike with 120mm, 140mm, and a 160mm fork and I think the happy place for aggressive riding is going to be a 130mm or 140mm fork (or equivalent A-to-C height) with a 120mm fork for XC-trail action or bike packing adventures.On that note, being that this is a hardtail I'd really like to see a fork with a sealed damper unit.
By the same token headangle can be wicked slack because standing uphill steering is totally different than seated steering. Building a frame? Anyone considering building a single speed might want to start from a frame set, but I also think I could min-max myself a geared carbon Chameleon to better suit me for 5700 USD* starting with a frame and working with my local shop.
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